Conversations

I had a nice yahoo conversation with an angmoh partner, who used to be my counselor in the early 90s.

NewYorkPartner (5:37:36 PM): Hello, my ex-accenture friend
karipap (5:37:43 PM): i haven't left yet!
karipap (5:37:56 PM): still doing my favorite task - powerpointing...
NewYorkPartner (5:38:33 PM): It's all in the mind.
NewYorkPartner (5:38:44 PM): I'm in Korea on my way to China.
karipap (5:38:50 PM): ha!
karipap (5:38:52 PM): what's up there...
NewYorkPartner (5:39:32 PM): Dude, China is where it's at these days
NewYorkPartner (5:39:32 PM): You should know that.
karipap (5:39:38 PM): i know...
karipap (5:39:45 PM): but i don't want to leave good old malaysia...
NewYorkPartner (5:39:52 PM): I am the latest in a long series of white people to lose money in China
karipap (5:39:54 PM): my kid starts primary 1 next year...
karipap (5:40:02 PM): ha! so are u gonna be reposted to CH?
NewYorkPartner (5:40:02 PM): Malaysia Boleh!
NewYorkPartner (5:40:22 PM): No way!
NewYorkPartner (5:40:22 PM): Is primary school taught in English or MAlay?
karipap (5:40:30 PM): both languages
NewYorkPartner (5:40:47 PM): No chinese?
karipap (5:41:02 PM): unless u go to a chinese school.. yes.. there's some chinese
NewYorkPartner (5:41:49 PM): Melanie starts high school this year
karipap (5:42:12 PM): that's fast!
karipap (5:45:41 PM): so what's this project you're going to? is it a BD? or some execution work/
NewYorkPartner (5:47:50 PM): I have some AO and BPO work going on in Dalian and Shanghai for a client in Chicago
NewYorkPartner (5:47:50 PM): I need to go there and kick some ass
NewYorkPartner (5:47:58 PM): Since I can't count on you anymore!
karipap (5:48:13 PM): alamak!
karipap (5:48:31 PM): well, if there's something that can make me make l4, i would stay..
NewYorkPartner (5:50:20 PM): There's only one way to make senior executive
karipap (5:50:28 PM): SELL!!!!
karipap (5:50:39 PM):
NewYorkPartner (5:51:04 PM): How did you know? Someone has been spilling secrets
karipap (5:51:20 PM): ha! world's worst secret
NewYorkPartner (5:52:19 PM): Pipeline does not count
NewYorkPartner (5:52:31 PM): You gotta ring the f@#$ing bell
karipap (5:52:48 PM): unfortunately, there're not that many bells here...
NewYorkPartner (5:52:55 PM): Hey - I'm going to close the year with $40-50M, depending on this last deal
NewYorkPartner (5:52:55 PM): Whoo!
karipap (5:53:04 PM): damn
NewYorkPartner (5:54:15 PM): I had 3 SM's working for me with $10M plus sales - none of them went up!
NewYorkPartner (5:54:21 PM): Because they have only a one year story.
karipap (5:54:34 PM): consistency is the key, ya?
karipap (5:54:46 PM): and worst if u're in a country where RM1 = USD.25
NewYorkPartner (5:55:04 PM): It was pretty frustrating.
NewYorkPartner (5:55:10 PM): It's like all those sales get wasted
karipap (5:55:20 PM): that's why.. i'm frustrated...
NewYorkPartner (5:55:27 PM): Should have given them to you or Rohan.
NewYorkPartner (5:56:02 PM): You should emigrate and work for me in China!
NewYorkPartner (5:56:14 PM): I am looking forward to losing some big $$$ there.
NewYorkPartner (5:56:14 PM): But having fun
NewYorkPartner (6:01:11 PM): It was a good move for me to come back here.
NewYorkPartner (6:01:11 PM): But it was very very very hard at first
karipap (6:01:28 PM): are u moving your family to China?
NewYorkPartner (6:01:46 PM): No f@#$ing way!
NewYorkPartner (6:01:57 PM): Are you kidding me?
NewYorkPartner (6:02:03 PM): I have no plans to divorce my wife.
NewYorkPartner (6:02:16 PM): How about you?
NewYorkPartner (6:02:16 PM): You are at least Chinese
karipap (6:02:56 PM): well.. i was close to moving to china last year
karipap (6:03:06 PM): then we bitched abt one point - child education...
karipap (6:03:24 PM): the firm said I won't be getting anything. i showed them policy 800 which said i am entitled
NewYorkPartner (6:03:36 PM): Good for you
karipap (6:03:59 PM): yet, it was an impasse. They then relented and said USD5K a year then...but from what I researched, the international schools are at least USD10-15K!
karipap (6:04:05 PM): so this ding donged for many months
karipap (6:04:17 PM): whilst waiting, I decided to start enrolling my son to a school in KL
NewYorkPartner (6:04:24 PM): Was xxx involved?
karipap (6:04:27 PM): so, after so many months, i just decided it wasn't worth it
karipap (6:04:33 PM): abc was involved....
karipap (6:04:48 PM): honestly, if the firm wanted me there, USD15K a year wouldn't be an issue..
karipap (6:05:18 PM): and the ironic thing is I got a call from a competitor, they wanted to hire me to run the FutureFirst implementation in China XXX, and they would foot my son's education! Just so ironic
NewYorkPartner (6:06:41 PM): That's so true.
karipap (6:06:52 PM): so ironic
NewYorkPartner (6:06:59 PM): What did the KL partners say when you told them you were leaving?
karipap (6:07:40 PM): ha! even more bizarre...
karipap (6:07:49 PM): NO ONE has spoken to me seriously abt this matter...
NewYorkPartner (6:08:03 PM): What a bunch of monkeys
karipap (6:08:12 PM): One partner said "ok.. i reject your resignation, but i got too many fires to fight now.. so i'll talk to you later abt it"
karipap (6:08:15 PM): it's been a week....
NewYorkPartner (6:08:27 PM): You are welcome to come work for me anytime.
NewYorkPartner (6:08:27 PM): In any country
NewYorkPartner (6:08:27 PM): Any time you want
karipap (6:08:45 PM): Another partner actually even agreed on my reasons of wanting to leave "you are right, it's gonna be tough to move up"
NewYorkPartner (6:08:46 PM): the monkeys are running the fucking zoo
karipap (6:08:47 PM): damn...
karipap (6:09:04 PM): so, i can tell u, it has been quite amusing so far...
NewYorkPartner (6:09:27 PM): "It's going to be tough to move up as long as my worthless ass is occupying a seat"
NewYorkPartner (6:09:53 PM): 4 partners, 3 million revenue. What the ???
karipap (6:10:32 PM): ya lah
NewYorkPartner (6:10:50 PM): I love those guys, but I would fire all of them.
karipap (6:11:04 PM): sigh..
NewYorkPartner (6:11:10 PM): If XXX were around, they would all be gone
karipap (6:11:11 PM): i have not told XXX tho....
karipap (6:11:31 PM): i think he would have a serious conversation with me.. but he's in government now...
NewYorkPartner (6:11:31 PM): Fucking vampires
NewYorkPartner (6:11:31 PM): Really?
NewYorkPartner (6:11:44 PM): If I were leaving, he would be one of the first people I would tell
NewYorkPartner (6:12:04 PM): In fact, I talk to him frequently and ask his advice about my career
karipap (6:12:55 PM): ok then...

Then later today, he SMSed me and offered to take me over to Chicago for a job there... I'm tempted... the saga continues...